Legislature(2005 - 2006)SENATE FINANCE 532

01/31/2006 09:00 AM Senate FINANCE


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09:03:50 AM SB232
11:09:57 AM Adjourn
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                     SENATE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                                                                 
                         January 31, 2006                                                                                     
                             9:03 a.m.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                              
CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Gary  Wilken convened the meeting at approximately  9:03:27                                                          
AM.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
PRESENT                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator Lyda Green, Co-Chair                                                                                                    
Senator Gary Wilken, Co-Chair                                                                                                   
Senator Con Bunde, Vice Chair                                                                                                   
Senator Fred Dyson                                                                                                              
Senator Bert Stedman                                                                                                            
Senator Lyman Hoffman                                                                                                           
Senator Donny Olson                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Also  Attending:  CHERYL  FRASCA,   Office  of  the  Governor;  BILL                                                          
ROLFZEN, Municipal  Assistance, National Forest Receipts,  Fish Tax,                                                            
PILT,  Division  of  Community  Advocacy,  Department  of  Commerce,                                                            
Community and  Economic Development; SAM THOMAS, Director,  Division                                                            
of Administrative  Services, Department  of Commerce, Community  and                                                            
Economic  Development;   LAURA  BAKER,  Budget  Chief,  Finance  and                                                            
Management  Services,  Department  of Health  and  Social  Services;                                                            
NANCY  SLAGLE,  Director,   Division  of  Administrative   Services,                                                            
Department  of Transportation and  Public Facilities; ROBIN  TAYLOR,                                                            
Deputy   Commissioner,   Marine  Highway   System,   Department   of                                                            
Transportation   and  Public  Facilities;  LINDA  PEREZ,   Director,                                                            
Division of Administrative  Services, Office of the  Governor; DAVID                                                            
MARQUEZ, Attorney  General, Department  of Law; KATHRYN DAUGHHETEE,                                                             
Director,  Administrative  Services  Division,  Department  of  Law;                                                            
PORTIA PARKER, Deputy Commissioner, Department of Corrections                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Attending via Teleconference:  From Anchorage: MIKE BLACK, Director,                                                          
Division of  Community Advocacy, Department  of Commerce,  Community                                                            
and Economic Development;  LARRY OSTROSKY, Chief Assistant Attorney,                                                            
General-Statewide  Section Supervisor, Oil, Gas and  Mining Section,                                                            
Civil Division, Department  of Law; From Offnet Sites: SARAH FISHER-                                                            
GOAD, Alaska  Energy Authority,  Department  of Commerce,  Community                                                            
and Economic Development; BILL POPP, Kenai Peninsula Borough                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SUMMARY INFORMATION                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SB 232-APPROPS: ENERGY-RELATED, PIPELINE & MISC.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
The Committee  heard supplemental energy request overviews  from the                                                            
Office of the  Governor, the Department  of Commerce, Community  and                                                            
Economic Development, the  Department of Health and Social Services,                                                            
the Department  of Law, the Department of Transportation  and Public                                                            
Facilities,   the  Office  of  the   Governor,  the  Department   of                                                            
Corrections,  and a representative  of the Arctic Winter  Games. The                                                            
bill was held in Committee.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     SENATE BILL NO. 232                                                                                                        
     "An  Act  making  special,  supplemental,  capital,  and  other                                                            
     appropriations,    amending    appropriations,    and    making                                                            
     appropriations   to capitalize  funds;  and  providing  for  an                                                            
     effective date."                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
This  was the first  hearing  for this  bill in  the Senate  Finance                                                            
Committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:03:50 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken  noted that the worksheet being referenced  today is                                                            
printed  on   green  paper  and  is   dated  January  30,2006.   For                                                            
continuity,  amendments received by  the 45th Legislative  day would                                                            
also be provided on green  paper; amendments received after that day                                                            
would  be printed  on a  yet  to be  determined different  color  of                                                            
paper. In addition,  amendments would be added to  the bottom of the                                                            
worksheet  rather   than  being  inserted  as  a  line   item  under                                                            
individual departments,  as has been the practice  in the past. This                                                            
would  allow "a  sense  of the  changes  in the  budget  as we  move                                                            
through it."                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken stated  that SB 232 would be referred to as the Fast                                                            
Track  Energy  bill.  He noted  that  Department  overviews  of  the                                                            
requests  would follow  the  testimony  provided by  Cheryl  Frasca,                                                            
Director, Office of Management and Budget.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:05:31 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHERYL FRASCA, Director,  Office of Management and Budget, Office of                                                            
the Governor appreciated  the fact that the hearing on this bill had                                                            
been scheduled  early in  the Legislative Session.  SB 232  has been                                                            
referred to as  "the Faster Track supplemental bill";  separate from                                                            
the Regular or Fast Track  supplemental bill. While "high oil prices                                                            
are  great for  the  State's  Treasury,  the down  side  is that  it                                                            
certainly  increases costs  above what had  been budgeted for  State                                                            
agencies, as well as Alaskans and Alaska businesses."                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Frasca  explained that  the requests included  in this  bill are                                                            
"primarily  energy related or utility  increases for State  agencies                                                            
as  well  as some  assistance  to  communities."  Grants  for  small                                                            
municipal  energy   assistance  are  included  in  the  approximate                                                             
$13,000,000 being  requested on behalf of communities  as the result                                                            
of continually  increasing utility  expenses. This money  would also                                                            
fully fund  the Power Cost  equalization  (PCE) program and  provide                                                            
funding  for the  Bulk  Fuel Bridge  Loan  program operated  by  the                                                            
Department of Commerce, Community and Economic Development.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Frasca  noted that, for the first  time, a request for  funds to                                                            
compliment  the federal Heating  Assistance  Program funds  for low-                                                            
income households  throughout the State is being brought  forward. A                                                            
list of  the number of  applicants by community  that receives  this                                                            
funding has been provided.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Frasca expressed  that State agency requests for  increased fuel                                                            
and utility costs, amounting  to approximately $23,000,000, are also                                                            
included  in this  bill. $15,000,000  of this  amount would  address                                                            
needs  of the  Alaska  Marine  Highway System.  While  being  energy                                                            
related rather  than being  an energy expense,  $6,400,000  is being                                                            
requested to support Gas  Pipeline negotiations. The bill also would                                                            
provide a grant  to the Arctic Winter Games, scheduled  to be on the                                                            
Kenai Peninsula  in early March 2006.  This request was included  in                                                            
this  bill  due to  the  timing  of  the Games.  There  is  also  an                                                            
amendment requesting $800,000  to address overcrowding conditions in                                                            
a Fairbanks Department of Corrections facility.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Frasca  concluded   her  remarks  and  noted  that   Department                                                            
representatives  would provide information pertaining  to individual                                                            
Department requests.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:08:36 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman  asked whether the  recent 30-day spell "of  extreme                                                            
cold  weather"  in  the State  might  affect  the  accuracy  of  the                                                            
requests.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Frasca  responded that since departments  have not provided  any                                                            
updated information,  the proposal  would advance as presented.  She                                                            
noted, however,  that amendments to the requests could  be presented                                                            
in the Regular  Supplemental bill. The funds requested  in this bill                                                            
would provide for expenses this winter.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:09:17 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dyson  understood that, because  "the cost of the  feedstock                                                            
is only  20,  30 percent  of the  cost of  the refined  fuels",  the                                                            
increases  in  the costs  of  refined products  would  not  increase                                                            
proportionately  with an increase  in crude  oil prices. "The  crude                                                            
oil component  of the finished fuel  price is only 20, 25  percent",                                                            
with  the balance  of the  expense  being contributed  to  refining,                                                            
transportation,  and  marketing  costs.  To  that  point,  he  asked                                                            
whether the  Office of Management  and Budget has tracked  "how much                                                            
our refined products costs  have gone up" as influenced by the price                                                            
of crude prices in the State.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:10:08 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Frasca  stated that while her  office has not conducted  such an                                                            
analysis, the Department of Revenue might have.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:10:38 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dyson  stated that the intent of his question  was an effort                                                            
to clarify  whether "the  huge jump in costs  for some communities"                                                             
might be  the direct result  of increased  crude oil prices  or some                                                            
other factor.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:10:53 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson,  noting the number  of University of Alaska  fuel and                                                            
utility  increase  requests  included  in the  bill,  asked  whether                                                            
similar requests from school districts would be forthcoming.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:11:25 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Frasca  responded that a further  determination must  be made as                                                            
to whether the  budgetary increase provided to K-12  Education in FY                                                            
06 would address  such cost of living  expenses. To that  point, she                                                            
noted that no  requests for K-12 school or local government  fuel or                                                            
utility expenses are included in this bill.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Olson  clarified  that his  question  pertained  to  school                                                            
district  fuel  and utility  expenses  rather  than cost  of  living                                                            
expenses.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Frasca  reaffirmed that no additional  fuel and utility  funding                                                            
requests from school district are included in this bill.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:12:39 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken   observed  that  the  majority  of   the  requests                                                            
presented  in the bill are  the result of  increased fuel costs.  In                                                            
that regard, the items  are "self-explanatory" and would not require                                                            
individual  testimony.  Approximately nine  of the  requests in  the                                                            
bill are non-energy related.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Frasca  agreed that "the story  would be similar" in  respect to                                                            
the energy-related requests.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
After conferring with the  Committee, Co-Chair Wilken announced that                                                            
the  nine non-fuel  increase  requests  would be  the  focus of  the                                                            
hearing. The routine fuel  and utility expense requests would not be                                                            
individually discussed  unless "a unique" circumstance was involved.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:14:16 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Stedman requested  that the  Alaska  Marine Highway  System                                                            
fuel expense requests be addressed during the hearing.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
AT EASE 9:14:54 AM / 9:16:44 AM                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken   informed  the   Committee  that  a  request   for                                                            
approximately  $10,900,000  for increased  K-12  Education fuel  and                                                            
utility expenses would be addressed in separate legislation.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:17:30 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Department of Commerce, Community and Economic Development                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Section: 1                                                                                                                 
     Results  Delivery Unit (RDU):  Community Assistance  & Economic                                                            
     Development  Small  Municipality  Energy Assistance  Program  -                                                            
     SMEAP.                                                                                                                     
     Supplemental  Need:  In accordance  with  Governor Murkowski's                                                             
     commitment  to helping  rural  Alaska, the  Small Municipality                                                             
     Energy  Assistance  Program will  provide  assistance to  rural                                                            
     cities  that have "been hit disproportionately  hard  by rising                                                            
     fuel prices." Grants  will be awarded for the years ending June                                                            
     30,  2006   and  June  30,  2007  for  the  repayment   of  any                                                            
     indebtedness of the  city or borough to the bulk fuel revolving                                                            
     loan fund and for the purchase of fuel.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     These    small   cities   have    taken   on   the    financial                                                            
     responsibilities   of  a  city  yet  lack  the  population   or                                                            
     commercial sector  to generate revenue through increasing local                                                            
     fees  or  taxes.   Grant  amounts  will  be  based   upon  2004                                                            
     population as follows:  $22,395.83 for cities with a population                                                            
     of less  than 100 people, $44,791.67  for cities of  100 to 600                                                            
     residents,  and $67,187.50  for cities  with more than  600 but                                                            
     fewer than 2,499 residents.                                                                                                
     $6,405,200 General Funds (Gen Funds)                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MIKE BLACK, Director, Division  of Community Advocacy, Department of                                                            
Commerce,   Community  and   Economic  Development   testified   via                                                            
teleconference  from Anchorage  and stated  that this request  would                                                            
provide  $6,405,200  to the  Small  Municipality  Energy  Assistance                                                            
Program. This was the same amount requested the previous year.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken  noted that the list  of communities is included  in                                                            
the bill rather than on the spreadsheet.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:18:02 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Bunde  observed  that  three  levels  of  grants  would  be                                                            
awarded, based  on community size. To that point,  he opined that on                                                            
a  per  capita  basis,  "either  somebody's   getting  too  much  or                                                            
somebody's getting too  little." Communities' populations range from                                                            
a low  of 31  to a high  of 96  in the  category of  "less than  100                                                            
people". Therefore, the  community of Bettles would receive $722 per                                                            
capita and  the community  of Anvik would  receive $243 per  capita.                                                            
Similar per capita "discrepancies"  would exist in each category. In                                                            
the population  category ranging  from 100  to 600 individuals,  the                                                            
community of Tenakee Springs  would receive $440 per person and Fort                                                            
Yukon  would receive  $75 per  person. In  the category  of "600  to                                                            
fewer than 2,499 residents",  the community of Noorvik would receive                                                            
$110 per person while the  community of Dillingham would receive $27                                                            
per person. He suggested  that the categories be further subdivided,                                                            
and that the per capita discrepancy be further addressed.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:20:07 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Black  asserted that  the three funding  levels were based  on a                                                            
range of population rather than a per capita basis.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bunde  stated that this should  be viewed as being  an issue                                                            
"of  fairness".  Larson  Bay, with  a  population  of 96,  would  be                                                            
provided $243  per person. Anvik with  a population of 101,  or five                                                            
more people  than Larson  Bay, would receive  $443 per person.  "The                                                            
people in Larson Bay should  really be upset." He characterized this                                                            
program   as  being   "a  crude   instrument   for  adjusting"   the                                                            
distribution of  funds. He also noted that the community  of Bettles                                                            
with a  population of  31 people  would receive  $722 per person  as                                                            
compared to Larson Bay's  $243. Several other examples of per capita                                                            
amounts were presented.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:23:01 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BILL ROLFZEN,  Municipal Assistance, National Forest  Receipts, Fish                                                            
Tax, PILT, Division  of Community Advocacy, Department  of Commerce,                                                            
Community and Economic  Development affirmed that program grants are                                                            
based  on population.  He also  agreed  with Senator  Bunde, that  a                                                            
community  on "the cusp"  of the various  thresholds could  perceive                                                            
there being inequalities  in the program. Nonetheless,  that was the                                                            
way the program was established.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken communicated  to Senator Bunde that this issue might                                                            
be revisited at another time.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:23:56 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Dyson  appreciated  "the  difficulty"  one  would  have  in                                                            
defending  the program,  as he could  "not think  of a worse  way of                                                            
doing it". Fuel  expenses would "directly correlate  with the number                                                            
of  people  and  the   transportation  mode."  While   some  of  the                                                            
communities in the program  might have their fuel flown in, fuel for                                                            
the majority  of them would  be barged in  at specific times  of the                                                            
year. "Lumping" those communities'  expenses with those having major                                                            
seaport  operations "seems  very irrational".  He would support  the                                                            
issue being  revisited. While  the current  program format  might be                                                            
easy to administer,  it is "so blatantly  illogical, that  this will                                                            
be a real problem for me."                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:24:59 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Stedman understood  the process  through  which the  grants                                                            
would be  allocated to  the various communities;  however,  the fact                                                            
that some of the communities  have a central distribution grid while                                                            
others  have "individual  buildings  scattered  about  each  running                                                            
their  own   little  hydro  system,"   generator,  woodstove,   wind                                                            
generator, or  other energy system is confusing. In  addition, there                                                            
is a question  as to how  grant funds are  distributed to  community                                                            
members since  some of the communities have no central  structure in                                                            
addition  to there  being no central  utility  distribution grid  to                                                            
which the funds could be applied.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:26:27 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Rolfzen  clarified that these  grants are specific to  municipal                                                            
owned  facilities.  Individual  community  residents  would  not  be                                                            
recipients  of  these  funds.  As noted  in  the  Supplemental  Need                                                            
language,  the  funds  would  first  be  applied  to  a community's                                                             
outstanding  Alaska  Energy  Authority  (AEA)  loan. He  noted  that                                                            
previous grant  money had been applied to 19 outstanding  AEA loans.                                                            
Secondly  the grant money  was paid  to fuel vendors  who were  owed                                                            
money. Thirdly, the money  would be used to reimburse a municipality                                                            
for  fuel  they  had  purchased  since  July  1,  2004.  The  fourth                                                            
condition was that the  funds could be used to assist a community in                                                            
purchasing  new fuel. 42  payments were made  to a fuel company  for                                                            
last  spring  and   this  summer's  fuel  purchases  for   community                                                            
facilities.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:27:30 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Stedman stated  that  the response  had  not addressed  his                                                            
concern. He would  appreciate discussing this further  with Co-Chair                                                            
Wilken.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Senator Stedman  stated that  another issue  was that some  of these                                                            
communities  were on  an electric  grid.  The expense  of running  a                                                            
hydro system  would not fluctuate  with the  price of fuel  oil; the                                                            
exception being when the  hydro system was shut down for such things                                                            
as maintenance.  "Generally speaking  a hydro is substantially  more                                                            
stable than  running diesel  generators."  Therefore, he  questioned                                                            
the "screening  that  was done  on these  communities  to take  into                                                            
account the  different types  of energy sources,"  as he  understood                                                            
that the program  was designed to assist communities  with high fuel                                                            
costs. Therefore  he questioned  "the fairness"  of the program,  as                                                            
fuel is one of a variety of energy sources.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:28:46 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Rolfzen  noted  that communities   must provide  documentation                                                             
showing "proof  of purchase of the fuel or an invoice  from the fuel                                                            
vendor  that  was payable"  regardless  of  the  community's  energy                                                            
source.  The   Department  "did  not   delve  into"  a  community's                                                             
individual energy source circumstances.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
In response  to  a comment  from Co-Chair  Wilken,  Senator  Stedman                                                            
acknowledged  the understanding that  grant funds were solely  based                                                            
on the three population  groupings. A community's  energy source was                                                            
not a factor.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:29:38 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Olson  asked  whether  a  community's   ability  to  access                                                            
petroleum  products   on  a  year-round  basis  or  colder   weather                                                            
conditions  were program  considerations. For  instance Larson  Bay,                                                            
which is  located on Kodiak  Island, could  receive shipments  year-                                                            
round.  The  community  of Anvik  on  the  Yukon  River experiences                                                             
extreme cold weather conditions  and could only receive shipments at                                                            
certain times of the year.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:30:49 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.   Rolfzen   replied   that   no   geographic    or  temperature                                                             
considerations are applied in this program.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Rolfzen informed  the  Committee that  the receipt  of  similar                                                            
funding in the Spring of  2005 was "very beneficial because there is                                                            
that small  window for  many of  these communities  along the  river                                                            
system to get  their fuel delivered  one time possibly twice  during                                                            
the  year." This  program  had been  critical  to those  large  fuel                                                            
vendors, as they would  not have delivered fuel absent the guarantee                                                            
"that this money would  be available, payable through our program to                                                            
those vendors."                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson  understood therefore  that geographic considerations                                                             
were not a factor.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken  stated that in early September one  of the villages                                                            
was paying  $1.00 per gallon  for heating  oil or $1.50 per  gallon,                                                            
delivered.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:31:55 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Bunde asked for  further information  about the  qualifying                                                            
criteria for the program.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:32:33 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Rolfzen explained that  in order to be eligible for this program                                                            
a community  must be a city or borough  smaller than 2,500  persons.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Bunde  understood   that  the  community   must  also  have                                                            
outstanding utility bills.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Rolfzen affirmed.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bunde  remarked that it would appear "that  we are rewarding                                                            
bad management… if you  don't pay your utility bills, we're going to                                                            
help, and if you do pay  your utility bills, you're on your own." He                                                            
questioned whether the  State should "reward that kind of behavior".                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:33:09 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Hoffman stated  that the  escalating price  of fuel  is the                                                            
reason that communities are unable to pay their fuel bills.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bunde  countered that this  program was a continuation  of a                                                            
program that  was in place prior to  the "spike" in fuel  prices. He                                                            
reiterated that this situation  might be an indicator of there being                                                            
"mismanagement at the municipal level".                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:33:48 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Black corrected  earlier  testimony  by clarifying  that  these                                                            
energy grants  could be provided to communities with  populations of                                                            
less than  2,500 "regardless  of whether they  owed money to  a fuel                                                            
vendor or not".  However, he noted that communities  with documented                                                            
debts would receive  "priority on distribution." The  end result was                                                            
that  the  Office  of  Community  Advocacy   wrote  checks  to  fuel                                                            
suppliers  or  the  Alaska Energy  Authority.  The  grant  would  be                                                            
provided directly  to the community  were there no such outstanding                                                             
debt.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:34:43 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Rolfzen affirmed Mr. Black's remarks.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:34:49 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Olson asked  therefore  whether the  mismanagement  concern                                                            
expressed by Senator Bunde  was not "really a concern as grants were                                                            
provided to both  communities that had no fuel debt  and communities                                                            
that did.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:35:07 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Rolfzen  responded that  a grant list  was developed with  those                                                            
communities  having outstanding AEA  loans and past debts  from fuel                                                            
vendors receiving  the highest priority.  Second priority  was given                                                            
to reimbursing  communities for fuel  purchased since July  1, 2004.                                                            
Once  those  priorities  were  addressed,   grant  monies  could  be                                                            
allocated for the purchase of new fuel.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson acknowledged.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Bunde  asked  whether   there  was  any  community  with  a                                                            
population of  less than 2,500 that had not applied  for this grant.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:35:54 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Rolfzen stated  that there are "a few communities  that have not                                                            
tapped into this  money yet". Continuing, he shared  that one of the                                                            
qualifying conditions  of this grant program is that  a municipality                                                            
must be able  to prove that they are  "functioning and accountable"                                                             
by their  ability to provide  their adopted  current year  operating                                                            
budget  and their  prior  year yearend  financial  statement.  Grant                                                            
funds would  not be released to communities  that have not  met such                                                            
criteria.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:36:20 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Green  understood  that a  chart  had been  compiled  that                                                            
depicted current  fuel prices, anticipated  prices, and past  prices                                                            
for  the various  communities.  She also  recalled  that the  prices                                                            
might  not  have  increased  in  alignment  with  per  barrel  price                                                            
increases.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Green  pointed out that additional  money for this  program                                                            
had been  provided in  the FY 05  supplemental  bill and that  those                                                            
figures were  "carried over" in the  FY 06 base. Any funds  provided                                                            
by this request  would "again increase  the base, which would  again                                                            
be reflected  in our budget upcoming."  Thus the issue is  "how many                                                            
increases  might  we  anticipate."   The  question  is  whether  the                                                            
approval of such funds  would be "based on the price or based on the                                                            
perception of the need" being widespread.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken asked  Mr.  Black to  respond to  Co-Chair  Green's                                                            
comments, and  in addition, share with the Committee  the outcome of                                                            
a  survey   that  had  been  conducted   on  fuel  price   increases                                                            
experienced by 100 communities.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Black stated  that the Department had conducted  a 100-community                                                            
fuel  price survey.  Copies of  the survey  are  available from  the                                                            
Department.  The survey would  support the  fact that some  parts of                                                            
the  State  were paying  substantially   more for  fuel.  "There  is                                                            
certainly not  a equal distribution of the cost increases  that have                                                            
occurred as a result of crude oil price increases."                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken  asked the  Department  to  provide copies  of  the                                                            
survey to Committee Members.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SAM  THOMAS,   Director,   Division  of   Administrative   Services,                                                            
Department of  Commerce, Community and Economic Development  agreed.                                                            
The Department's  report, titled "Current Community  Conditions Fuel                                                            
Prices Across Alaska", [copy on file] was provided.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:38:36 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Stedman  informed the Committee that two communities  in his                                                            
Senate District,  Myers Chuck  and Hollis,  are not included  in the                                                            
list of communities  benefiting from  this grant money. Hollis  is a                                                            
small  struggling community  without  organizational  structure  and                                                            
does  not  meet  the  qualifying  criteria   for  the  grant.  Other                                                            
communities  of similar  size that  have more structure  are  on the                                                            
list and  do get the State  "carrot". Some  of the communities  that                                                            
qualify "have  a stand-alone energy source for each  house". To that                                                            
point,  he voiced concern  that the  grant funds  being provided  to                                                            
those communities "is not  going to the people that have to buy fuel                                                            
for their fuel tank." While  it might be easy to establish a program                                                            
based on such  things as population,  this money might not  be being                                                            
utilized as intended.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:40:05 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken  stated that he had  supported funding this  program                                                            
the  previous year  because  it had  been  presented  as a  one-time                                                            
occurrence. The  "scrutiny" being expressed today  "is the result of                                                            
now being asked  to do it twice."  He did not like the program  last                                                            
year  and  he  does not  like  it  now,  as  it  establishes  "false                                                            
expectations that it'll  be here next year and the year after that".                                                            
Once a program is started it is difficult to curtail it.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:40:51 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken  continued that the other problem  with this request                                                            
is that it seems to present  "the mindset" that energy problems only                                                            
exist  in Rural  Alaska. That  is not  the case.  He submitted  that                                                            
people who must drive a  round trip of 50 miles to work have greater                                                            
energy expenses  than people who live  in communities in  which fuel                                                            
might cost six dollars  a gallon, but only have a mile and a half of                                                            
roads.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken stated  that  85-percent  of the  goods shipped  to                                                            
Alaska  pass through  the  ports of  Valdez, Whittier,  Seward,  and                                                            
Anchorage.  He noted that copies of  November 4, 2005, November  21,                                                            
2005, and January  26, 2006 letters [copies on file]  from a freight                                                            
company,  Horizon  Lines of  Alaska,  to customers  receiving  goods                                                            
through  those  ports  substantiate   the  fact  that  a  16-percent                                                            
surcharge  is currently being  imposed on each  item, from a  bag of                                                            
potato  chips  to   lumber  to  vehicles.  The  cumulative   freight                                                            
surcharge is 20 percent  higher than it was one year prior. Everyone                                                            
is affected.  Decisions must not be  made with "a shotgun"  or based                                                            
on "sob stories" or "anecdotes".  Several pieces of legislation have                                                            
been introduced  that would  treat people in  the State equally  and                                                            
fairly.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken, stating that  he would not  be supportive  of this                                                            
request,  asked that  he be  notified  of other  Committee  Members'                                                            
opinion on this matter.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:43:16 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Hoffman  countered  that  everyone  could  not  be  treated                                                            
equally  by this  program  due  to the  variety  of cost  of  living                                                            
expenses  experienced in  different areas.  "Fairbanks still  enjoys                                                            
one of the  lower cost of livings  in the State overall."  The focus                                                            
of  this  program  is energy  costs,  and  there  is  a substantial                                                             
difference   between   spending    five   dollars   a   gallon   for                                                            
transportation  and being required to pay five dollars  a gallon for                                                            
heating fuel 24 hours a  day. The $2.50 per gallon price for heating                                                            
fuel being paid  in Fairbanks would be a marked difference  from the                                                            
price paid in Rural areas.  The purpose of this program is to assist                                                            
communities  throughout  the State  that are  "suffering"… "many  of                                                            
these  communities  are  potentially  closing  their doors  and  are                                                            
having a hard time trying to make ends meet."                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman  stated that, on one  hand, State Legislators  would                                                            
welcome high  crude oil prices; however  as individuals,  they would                                                            
desire  the  lowest price  per  gallon,  "but  that's not  going  to                                                            
happen."  While  the State  "is reaping  in  $60 million  for  every                                                            
dollar"  increase,  the citizens  of the  State "are  suffering  the                                                            
consequences,  particularly those  in Rural settings because  of the                                                            
high  cost." The  Governor  developed  a  program that,  while  "not                                                            
perfect as  it does not compensate  for the higher price  of fuel up                                                            
north or how far  you are away from the distribution  center", could                                                            
be "massaged" in order  to assist the citizens of the State who live                                                            
in Rural areas "that have the highest and the most need."                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman  stated that even  though it might be impossible  to                                                            
treat everyone  equally, we should  have "the empathy to  understand                                                            
there are differences  and we as State  officials should  step up to                                                            
the plate and provide that assistance."                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:46:35 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken  "suggested  that  it  is  not the  duty  of  State                                                            
government to equalize the cost of living across our State."                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:46:45 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson  noted that while "valid points" have  been presented,                                                            
there would appear to be  some "shortsightedness in that we do allow                                                            
for  cost  of  living  allowances"   as  attested  by  some  of  the                                                            
appropriations  that are provided.  He opined that many communities                                                             
"are being  penalized because  they don't have  the ability  to have                                                            
the economy of  scale." An effort must be made to  allow communities                                                            
such as Hollis to educate  their children and heat their homes. Many                                                            
communities have  made an effort to develop their  own power supply.                                                            
Unless  there was  a desire  to create  "an influx  of people  into"                                                            
other larger communities  and thereby create more problems, programs                                                            
such as this must be supported.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken asked that  this issue be  set aside and  continued                                                            
another day.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:48:11 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bunde  acknowledged, but offered  the suggestion  that, were                                                            
this program  to continue,  it be  based on per  capita rather  than                                                            
community size. Continuing  he calculated that the per capita dollar                                                            
amount for the  lowest population category, which  is municipalities                                                            
of less than 100  people, would range from $700 to  $250 per person,                                                            
with  an average  per  capita  of  $320. Additional  considerations                                                             
should  include  geographic   locations  as  well  as  a  verifiable                                                            
population,  which could  be provided  in a manner  similar to  that                                                            
required for the Base Student  Foundation Education Formula funding.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken acknowledged.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:49:32 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Section: 2(a)                                                                                                              
     RDU: Power Cost Equalization  and Rural Electric Capitalization                                                            
     Fund                                                                                                                       
     Supplemental  Need: This supplemental  request capitalizes  the                                                            
     Power  Cost Equalization  and Rural  Electricification  Fund to                                                            
     fully fund the Power Cost Equalization program.                                                                            
     The  FY 2006  supplemental  for full  funding  is estimated  at                                                            
     $5,817,9. The FY 2006  carry forward balance is estimated to be                                                            
     $358.0.   Reducing  the  fund  capitalization   by  the  $358.0                                                            
     carryforward  leaves  $5,459.9  needed  to capitalize  the  PCE                                                            
     Fund.                                                                                                                      
     $5,459,900 General Funds                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
and                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Section: 2(b)                                                                                                              
     RDU: Alaska Energy Authority Power Cost Equalization                                                                       
     Supplemental  Need: The current  FY 2006 funding level  for the                                                            
     PCE  program  has required  Alaska  Energy Authority  (AEA)  to                                                            
     prorate  the  program.  The prorated  level  for  July  through                                                            
     October was  81%; in November, continued rise  in program costs                                                            
     required  a prorated level of 78%. Program demand  continues to                                                            
     increase  and AEA anticipates further reduction  in the payment                                                            
     level before  the end of FY 2006. This supplemental  will allow                                                            
     AEA  to pay 100% of  the program costs  through the end  of the                                                            
     fiscal  year.  Furthermore,  the supplemental  is  intended  to                                                            
     allow  AEA  to retroactively   apply the  100  % level  to  the                                                            
     beginning of the fiscal year.                                                                                              
     The  additional $15,000  in administrative  costs is needed  to                                                            
     process  the  retroactive   payments.  In  order  to  help  the                                                            
     utilities  and eligible recipients receive the  full benefit of                                                            
     the increased funds,  AEA needs to provide additional technical                                                            
     assistance  to  the  utility  clerks.  AEA  anticipates  hiring                                                            
     temporary  help to process the increased paperwork  so that the                                                            
     two  employees  responsible  for and  most familiar  with  this                                                            
     program  are able to provide  additional technical assistance.                                                             
     $5,817,900 PCE Fund                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:50:04 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SARAH FISHER-GOAD, Alaska  Energy Authority, Department of Commerce,                                                            
Community  and Economic  Development, testified  via teleconference                                                             
from an offnet  site and explained that the Power  Cost Equalization                                                            
(PCE) program assists Rural  electric residential and non-commercial                                                            
community  facility  customers "by  paying  for a  portion of  their                                                            
electrical  costs". "Approximately  30 percent of the power  sold in                                                            
Rural communities  is eligible for  PCE reimbursement". Residential                                                             
customers  could be  reimbursed  for up  to 500-kilowatt  hours  per                                                            
month.   86  utilities,   representing   183   communities   serving                                                            
approximately 79,000 people, participate in the program.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Fisher-Goad  stated  that the  Alaska  Energy  Authority  (AEA)                                                            
"Power Cost Equalization  Funding and Pro Rata Levels"  spreadsheet,                                                            
dated  January  27,  2006  [copy  on  file]  would  provide  further                                                            
information  about this request  as well as  the funding history  of                                                            
the PCE program.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Fisher-Goad  noted that, as depicted  on the handout,  AEA would                                                            
be able  to pay a  prorated PCE  level of  approximately 99  percent                                                            
this fiscal year  were this request approved. Currently  the program                                                            
is prorated  at 78  percent. The  prorated level  would decrease  to                                                            
approximately 66 percent  in March absent this supplemental funding.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Fisher-Goad  communicated  that  the handout  also reflects  the                                                            
expectation  that the current 78 percent  Pro Rata funding  would be                                                            
sustainable   were  the  PCE  program   continued  at  the   current                                                            
$18,700,000  funding level.  The spreadsheet  also depicts  Pro Rata                                                            
percentages  at the $15,700,000 funding  level. In consideration  of                                                            
increasing utility costs  and PCE levels, AEA has restricted the Pro                                                            
Rata payment to the $15,700,000 funding level.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Fisher-Goad informed  the Committee that even though the FY 2006                                                            
funding  level had  been  increased  by $3,000,000  for  a total  of                                                            
$18,700,000,  "the Pro Rata level  is 11-percent lower than  FY 2003                                                            
and FY 2004".                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:52:14 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bunde  asked the total amount that would be  provided to the                                                            
PCE program, were this supplemental request approved.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:52:42 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Fisher-Goad  responded  that  the  supplemental   amount  being                                                            
requested in this legislation  is $5,800,000 including $5,400,000 in                                                            
general funds.  The estimated cost of the FY 2007  PCE program would                                                            
be $25,160,000.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bunde  pointed out that the energy funding  provided by this                                                            
program,  combined  with the  $6.4 million  being  proposed for  the                                                            
Small Municipality  Energy Assistance Program, would  amount to more                                                            
than "$30 million for energy subsidies for Rural Alaska".                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Section: 3                                                                                                                 
     RDU:  Community  Assistance &  Economic Development  Bulk  Fuel                                                            
     Bridge Loan Program                                                                                                        
     Supplemental   Need:  This  grant  program  will  enable  rural                                                            
     communities  that do not qualify  for a fuel loan administered                                                             
     by Alaska  Energy Authority to receive a short-term  loan. This                                                            
     program began  in fiscal year 2005 in response  to the critical                                                            
     needs of rural communities  facing emergency fuel shortages and                                                            
     will continue  into 2006 to assist with the high  cost of fuel.                                                            
     The grant  program has provided  approximately $1.2  million in                                                            
     short-term interest-free loans to 13 communities.                                                                          
     $500,000 general funds                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SAM  THOMAS,   Director,   Division  of   Administrative   Services,                                                            
Department  of Commerce, Community  and Economic Development  stated                                                            
that  this program  would  be a  community's  last resort  for  fuel                                                            
funding.  A community  could  apply for  this assistance,  were  its                                                            
application  for a Bulk Fuel  Revolving Loan  Fund (BFRLF)  from AEA                                                            
denied.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Black noted  this revolving fuel loan program  is a program that                                                            
would attempt  "to deal with high  fuel prices and the inability  of                                                            
communities  to receive  loans" through  the BFRLF.  The program  is                                                            
available   to  municipalities,  unincorporated   communities,   and                                                            
utility   providers.  Loan   monies   that  are   repaid  would   be                                                            
recapitalized  into  additional  loans  or  future  loans  to  other                                                            
communities.  Fourteen  communities have  used the  program. Two  of                                                            
those "have  paid off their  past loan debt  and" have been  able to                                                            
acquire "conventional financing".                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken  asked that  the status  of  the loans  to date  be                                                            
provided to the Committee.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Black agreed to provide that information.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:57:38 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Department of Health and Social Services                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Section: 4(3)(B)                                                                                                           
     RDU: Low Income Home Energy Assistance Program                                                                             
     Supplemental  Need:  The Energy  Assistance  component,  funded                                                            
     through  the  Public Assistance  RDU,  requires  an  $8,800,000                                                            
     general  fund supplement to help  Alaska's low-income  families                                                            
      deal with the dramatic increase in heating fuel prices.                                                                   
     $8,800,000 General Fund                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LAURA  BAKER,  Budget   Chief,  Finance  and  Management   Services,                                                            
Department  of Health and Social Services  stated that this  funding                                                            
would supplement the current program.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:57:57 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Baker conveyed  that while this  is a federally funded  program,                                                            
the federal  funds have been continued  at a "maintenance  level and                                                            
have  been  unable  to  address  the  increased  fuel  costs"  being                                                            
experienced.  In the year  2005, this needs-based  program  provided                                                            
assistance to approximately 9,055 applicants in 150 communities.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bunde  asked whether communities that qualify  for the Small                                                            
Energy  Assistance  Program would  also  be able  to  apply to  this                                                            
program.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Baker  clarified  that this  is not a  community-based  program.                                                            
Applicants must meet eligibility  and benefit criteria, which awards                                                            
points based  on factors such as household  size, fuel costs  in the                                                            
area, and the type of housing being occupied.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bunde  understood therefore that this program  would provide                                                            
assistance  to individuals  in communities  while the BFRLP  and the                                                            
Small   Energy  Assistance   Program   would   assist  communities.                                                             
Continuing, he asked whether  a member of a community that qualified                                                            
for  the other  energy  assistance  programs  could apply  for  this                                                            
program.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Baker was unfamiliar with the other programs.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman affirmed  that this program would assist individuals                                                            
while   the  other   programs   would  assist   municipalities   and                                                            
communities.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bunde  acknowledged, but clarified that his  question was to                                                            
ascertain whether  "a person who lives in one of the  municipalities                                                            
who  can get  the  energy  assistance"  could  also apply  for  this                                                            
program.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Baker stated that this information would be provided.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bunde  asked whether the Low  Income Home Energy  Assistance                                                            
Program (LIHEAD) was limited to residents of large communities.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Baker responded in the negative.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bunde determined  therefore that, through separate programs,                                                            
a municipality  could receive assistance  and the residents  of that                                                            
community could also receive assistance.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Baker stated  that more than 90 percent of the  federal (LIHEAP)                                                            
payments were paid to the  vendors. In addition to other qualifiers,                                                            
household income could  not exceed 150 percent of the poverty level,                                                            
which would equate to approximately $36,000.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken asked  that  the "Spot  Prices of  #1 Heating  Oil"                                                            
graph at the  bottom of page one of  the project backup material  be                                                            
explained.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Baker  explained that  the federal LIHEAP  Grant is divided.  In                                                            
federal fiscal  year (FFY) 2005, the State received  $8.3 million in                                                            
federal funding.  $3,600,000 in federal  funds was also distributed                                                             
to Native Corporations.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken asked  whether  the $8.3  million  provided to  the                                                            
State was 100 percent federal funds.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Baker  affirmed  that it  was. Continuing,  she  noted that  the                                                            
federal amount  provided in FY 06 was actually lower  than the FY 05                                                            
funding.  Calculations  based  on  two  years  of  fuel  costs  were                                                            
utilized  in  determining   the  $8.8  million  requested   in  this                                                            
supplemental. $5.9 million  of that would funnel through the State's                                                            
LIHEAP program  and the $2.9  million balance  would be provided  to                                                            
Native entities.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken   asked  for  confirmation  that  the  $11,270,000                                                             
provided in FY 06 was 100 percent federal funds.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Baker affirmed.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken  understood  therefore  that,  in addition  to  the                                                            
$11,270,000  in federal funds that  had been provided for  FY 06, an                                                            
additional  $8,800,000   in  State  general  funds   is  also  being                                                            
requested. Thus,  the program total for FY 06 would  be $20 million.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
10:02:17 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken asked how  the $8,800,000 determination was derived.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Baker  stated  that  the aforementioned   chart  depicted  home                                                            
heating fuel  differentials for fiscal  years 2003, 2004,  and 2005.                                                            
Home  heating oil  has  increased  by more  than 90-percent  in  two                                                            
years.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Department of Commerce, Community and Economic Development                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Section: 5                                                                                                                 
     RDU: Alaska Energy Circuit Riders                                                                                          
     Supplemental Need:  This supplemental request will provide bulk                                                            
     fuel  tank farm  operator  assistance  and the  assessment  and                                                            
     retrofit  of small  fuel  tanks in  accordance  with the  Rural                                                            
     Energy Action Council's  recommendations. The tanks include day                                                            
     tanks  inside  institutional  and  utility  buildings  such  as                                                            
     schools, powerhouses,  and water plants, as well as residential                                                            
     fuel  storage  tanks.  The  assessments   consist  of  specific                                                            
     reports  for  each institutional  and  utility  building and  a                                                            
     written  summary of tank conditions  on a community-wide  basis                                                            
     for the residential  tanks. As a result of this work, fuel tank                                                            
     leaks  will  be  avoided,  health  and safety  issues  will  be                                                            
     addressed and regulatory compliance will be improved.                                                                      
     $300,000 General Funds                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:03:07 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Fisher-Goad  explained  that this  request would  allow AEA  "to                                                            
address the Governor's  Rural Energy Action Council's recommendation                                                            
regarding bulk fuel tank  farm operator assistance and maintenance".                                                            
It  would  also  increase  the  operator  assistance  AEA  currently                                                            
provides  through  the Circuit  Rider  program,  renamed  "Technical                                                            
Assistance". The funds  being requested would provide for both FY 06                                                            
and  FY  07.   The  Technical  Assistance   program  would   provide                                                            
"preventative  maintenance  services and on-site  operator  training                                                            
primarily to the smaller  utilities that" experience difficulties in                                                            
recruiting   operators   possessing   the   required   skills.   100                                                            
communities  have  received  this assistance.  The  current  funding                                                            
level is inadequate  as only 25 percent of applicants  could receive                                                            
assistance  each year.  "The power  house assistance  service  calls                                                            
include  such  things  as inspections,   testing,  and preventative                                                             
maintenance  of  the diesel  engines,  generators,  control  panels,                                                            
metering systems,  and other related  components." The inclusion  of                                                            
bulk fuel systems  into this program  would expand the service  call                                                            
responsibilities  to  include  inspections,   testing,  repair,  and                                                            
preventative  maintenance  of bulk  fuel tanks,  pipelines,  values,                                                            
pumps,  meters, and  electrical control  systems  and other  related                                                            
components. Thus  far in FY 06, powerhouse technical  assistance has                                                            
been provided  to 18 communities.  The funds  being requested  would                                                            
provide  this  assistance  to an  additional  ten  communities.  The                                                            
additional  funds being requested  for FY  07 would allow  technical                                                            
assistance to be provided to 50 to 75 communities.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
10:05:31 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator   Bunde  asked   regarding   the  program's   general   fund                                                            
appropriation.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
10:05:39 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Fisher-Goad  stated that $100,700  was allocated to the  Circuit                                                            
Rider Program in FY 06.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bunde,  observing  that this request  would add $300,000  to                                                            
the original $100,000  FY 06 allocation, "thought  that supplemental                                                            
requests should be smaller than the original request."                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Bunde stated  that it  would be  interesting  to "know  the                                                            
total required  funding for energy and heating assistance  for Rural                                                            
Alaska."                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken responded  that this information would be requested.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
10:06:42 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Stedman  asked the reason  this item is being requested  via                                                            
the supplemental  bill  rather  than being  presented  in the FY  07                                                            
Operating Budget bill. That avenue would be more appropriate.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Fisher-Goad  stated that this  request is included in  the FY 06                                                            
supplemental  bill in  order to allow  the funds  to be utilized  as                                                            
soon as  possible. This  would address the  Governor's Rural  Energy                                                            
Action Council concerns.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Senator Stedman opined  that July 1, 2006, which is the beginning of                                                            
the FY 07 fiscal year, would be an adequate date.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
10:07:36 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dyson  informed the  Committee that,  as a matter of  public                                                            
policy,  the Postage  Stamp Rate  was developed  in  order to  allow                                                            
people, particularly  those in Rural areas, to actively  participate                                                            
in government  via the United  States mail.  Over a century  ago, it                                                            
was determined  that telephones  and telegraphs  could also  further                                                            
this endeavor  and thus the Universal Service Fund  was established.                                                            
It  allowed  denser  populated  areas  and  commercial  entities  to                                                            
subsidize rural area individuals' abilities in this regard.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dyson  continued that, "electric power is  a universal thing                                                            
that individuals  and communities  need to have in order  to operate                                                            
in our modern  world." Therefore, he asked whether  discussions have                                                            
included  the development  of  some sort  of "rational  system  that                                                            
allows for everyone  to have access at some level  to electric power                                                            
and it to be some  kind of fair subsidization from  the places where                                                            
it can  happen very  efficiently,  i.e. the large  populations  … to                                                            
those areas where it is tougher to have power."                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Dyson determined  that  there are  currently  eight or  ten                                                            
programs that address energy  issues, "many of them overlap, some of                                                            
them are contradictory,"  and there  is no consistent comprehensive                                                             
way to overview  the issue. He agreed  that "the cost of  delivering                                                            
fuel"  once a year  is a  different  circumstance and  could not  be                                                            
compared  to communities which  have hydro  power or easy access  to                                                            
natural gas.  While it would  be "reasonable"  for the Committee  to                                                            
accommodate  this issue, "an inordinately  awkward system  that does                                                            
not have a rational base" currently exists.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dyson  recalled raising this  issue often, without  success,                                                            
during  his ten years  as a Legislator.  "One  solution might  be to                                                            
develop a bill  "that forces that  kind of an integrated  system" to                                                            
accomplish a rationalization  effort that would "promote  a fair and                                                            
equitable way of dealing with a very significant problem."                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:11:38 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken  characterized  Senator  Dyson's remarks  as  being                                                            
"very perceptive" and challenging.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
10:12:01 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dyson  asked whether the Administration or  any other entity                                                            
has considered such an approach.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
10:12:13 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Fisher-Goad  understood that such  a proposal has, on  occasion,                                                            
been discussed. However,  she deferred to the Office of the Governor                                                            
for  further information.  In  addition,  various utilities  in  the                                                            
State might weigh in on such legislation.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:13:00 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Stedman  agreed that fuel costs in Western  Alaska, where it                                                            
is substantially  colder  than Southeast  Alaska,  are an issue.  In                                                            
addition, Central  Alaska might eventually have access  to unlimited                                                            
natural  gas supplies.  It would behoove  the State  to further  the                                                            
development  of  both  hydro  and natural  gas  supplies  and  hydro                                                            
interties  for the coastal  areas. This would  assist in  minimizing                                                            
dependence on fossil fuels and reduce environmental challenges.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
10:14:01 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman  noted that  the development  of a natural  gas line                                                            
would  benefit the  communities  of  Fairbanks, the  Mat-Su  Valley,                                                            
Anchorage,  and Kenai. However,  Western Alaska  would be unable  to                                                            
tie in to such  a line. A "different time would be  approaching" and                                                            
the  Legislature should  consider  this future  scenario.  "It is  a                                                            
State resource  and all people should  benefit potentially  equally;                                                            
but  there's no  way that  we're all  going  to be  able to  benefit                                                            
equally  even though  the resource  comes  from Rural  areas of  the                                                            
State,  although its  owned by  all Alaskans."  This  is one of  the                                                            
reasons  he is supportive  of the  programs being  presented  by the                                                            
Governor.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Department of Transportation and Public Facilities                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Section: 4(6)(H)                                                                                                           
     RDU: Marine Highway System Marine Vessel Operations                                                                        
     Supplemental  Need: The Alaska Marine Highway  System (AMHS) is                                                            
     anticipating  a  $14,774,800  fuel  supplemental  need  due  to                                                            
     increased fuel costs  and increased fuel usage. The approved FY                                                            
     06 budget  was based on approximately  10.7 million  gallons of                                                            
     fuel  at $1,425,000 per  gallon. The  Marine Highway System  is                                                            
     projecting to use  approximately 13,251,000 gallons of fuel due                                                            
     to increased  ferry usage. The  estimated delivered  fuel price                                                            
     for FY 06 is $2.26 per gallon.                                                                                             
     The  FY  06 operating   plan provides  ferry  service  to  many                                                            
     coastal  communities that lack  links to the main road  system.                                                            
     Additionally,  the  plan improves  the mobility  of people  and                                                            
      goods while enhancing the marketing potential of AMHS.                                                                    
     $14,774,800 General Funds                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
10:15:59 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
NANCY  SLAGLE,  Director,   Division  of  Administrative   Services,                                                            
Department of Transportation  and Public Facilities stated that this                                                            
$14,700,000  request  would address  the fuel  needs  of the  Alaska                                                            
Marine Highway  System (AHMS)  for FY 06.  The initial FY 06  budget                                                            
was based  on a  fuel price  of $1.425  per gallon.  This price  was                                                            
"tied" to  the State's  Spring Revenue Forecast.  The current  price                                                            
projection is $2.26 per  gallon. AHMS has also experienced increased                                                            
fuel  consumption.  The original  fuel  usage  was estimated  to  be                                                            
10,600,000  gallons; however,  the  revised fuel  usage estimate  is                                                            
13,200,000 gallons, as  the AHMS has increased its level of service.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
10:18:05 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Stedman  recalled that, due to Committee concern,  a lengthy                                                            
discussion  on  fuel prices  occurred  during  the FY  06  budgeting                                                            
process.  He acknowledged  that  forecasting  future  oil prices  is                                                            
difficult.  Continuing,  he asked  regarding his  recollection  of a                                                            
price of $1.17 or $1.18 per gallon.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
10:18:47 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Slagle  responded that  the average price  per gallon for  FY 04                                                            
was slightly over  one dollar a gallon. The average  price for FY 05                                                            
was $1.51 per  gallon. She noted that  fuel prices are based  on the                                                            
Oil Price Information  Service (OPIS)  price plus cost of  delivery.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
10:19:37 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
ROBIN TAYLOR,  Deputy Commissioner,  Alaska  Marine Highway  System,                                                            
Department  of  Transportation  and Public  Facilities,  and  former                                                            
State  Senator, stated  that the  original budget  submitted by  the                                                            
Department  was  $1.14 per  gallon,  based  on the  previous  year's                                                            
records. At the request  of the Department, the Legislature adjusted                                                            
the  price  upward  to $1.425  per  gallon  toward  the end  of  the                                                            
Legislative  Session. At one  point during  the summer of 2005,  the                                                            
per-gallon price was $2.60.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:20:26 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Stedman stated  that while  the AMHS is  more expensive  to                                                            
operate when  oil prices  are increasing,  the State also  generates                                                            
more  revenue  from   crude  oil  prices.  The  scenario   could  be                                                            
characterized   as  "a   wash".  The  25-percent   additional   fuel                                                            
consumption is the result  of scheduling changes and other endeavors                                                            
to increase the efficiency and ridership of the AMHS.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Stedman   asked  that  the  increase  in  consumption   and                                                            
scheduling  endeavors be  further discussed.  In  addition, a  FY 07                                                            
forecast would also be  appreciated, as a more accurate budget cycle                                                            
would serve to minimize supplemental requests.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Senator Stedman  stressed how "critical" it is to  coastal Alaska to                                                            
have a functioning  AMHS. The worry is that sometime  in the future,                                                            
large supplemental  requests would  be more unwelcome than  they are                                                            
today. The idea would be a get ahead of that issue.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken asked that  Senator Taylor  provide an overview  of                                                            
future needs.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Taylor  responded  that in March  2005, the Legislature  had                                                            
approved a  $16 million supplemental  request for the AMHS,  without                                                            
there being "dramatic increases in fuel costs."                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Senator Taylor  explained that AMHS would sell its  mainline vessels                                                            
and replace them with high-speed  vessels. While that transition has                                                            
began,  he was "unsure  as to  how much  thought was  given to  that                                                            
process",  because  even   though  both  the  Senate  and  House  of                                                            
Representatives  provided   additional  money  to  operate  the  M/V                                                            
Kennicott,  no funds were  included to operate  the M/V Taku  or the                                                            
M/V Aurora,  which  provides year-round  service  to Prince  William                                                            
Sound,  as the belief  was that  both those vessels  would be  sold.                                                            
However, the M/V Taku has  been the sole operating vessel traversing                                                            
from Prince  Rupert, British  Columbia, Canada  northward this  past                                                            
winter.  It's  been the  "workhorse."  The  M/V Kennicott  has  been                                                            
operating in  the Gulf of Alaska with  runs between Kodiak,  Valdez,                                                            
Cordova, Homer,  Whittier, Unalaska  and other communities.  The M/V                                                            
Tustumena,  which  traditionally   operates  that  route,  has  been                                                            
undergoing repairs  for six months. That was a known  situation. The                                                            
reason that that  situation had not been accommodated  in the budget                                                            
is a mystery.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Had the M/V Kennicott  been tied up and the M/V Taku  and M/V Aurora                                                            
sold, AMHS would  have been operating with approximately  30 percent                                                            
less  service and  no  ferry service  would  have been  provided  in                                                            
Prince  William  Sound  during  the winter.  That  would  have  been                                                            
unacceptable.  Therefore, when  asked about  the management  changes                                                            
being considered in the  FY 06 budget, he replied he had decided not                                                            
to  sell the  M/V Aurora  and  M/V Taku,  as  the reduced  level  of                                                            
service  would   have  been  quite   disturbing  to  the   Murkowski                                                            
Administration.  As a consequence,  additional  service beyond  that                                                            
contemplated  in the budget has been  provided. The budget  that had                                                            
been presented  was  "inappropriate  for what  realities were  being                                                            
faced by the fleet."                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Senator Taylor voiced optimism  that "a much more detailed operating                                                            
plan than  what we've  been able to  provide" in  the past would  be                                                            
forthcoming. The AHMS vessel  schedule published in the fall of 2005                                                            
was the first  one he was able to provide input to  since his recent                                                            
appointment to his position.  AMHS's ticketing and sales fiscal year                                                            
runs from October  first through September 31st of  each year. Thus,                                                            
supplemental requests that  provide funds through July first of each                                                            
year must  be meshed  with that  AMHS budgeting  cycle. In  essence,                                                            
AHMS must  budget for  a year and  four months.  That is one  of the                                                            
contributing  factors in  the supplemental  request being  presented                                                            
today.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Senator Taylor  stressed that  people rely  on AMHS service  and had                                                            
bought and  made plans to travel on  boats that were budgeted  to be                                                            
sold.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Taylor stated  that  past AHMS  budgeting  appears to  have                                                            
relied on  the Alaska Marine  Highway Fund,  which has been  totally                                                            
depleted,  as well as  the fact  that a large  supplemental  request                                                            
would be  presented each  year; this as an  inappropriate manner  in                                                            
which to conduct  business. It is  certainly not "a comfortable  way                                                            
to do business  for the people of the coastal communities  that rely                                                            
on" the system for essential transportation.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
10:26:36 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Bunde  understood  that  the State  does  not  possess  the                                                            
refinery capacity to provide  diesel fuel for AMHS; therefore oil is                                                            
refined elsewhere and shipped to the State.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator Taylor  clarified that while  there is refinery capacity  in                                                            
the State,  there is an inadequate  distribution system.  Therefore,                                                            
the State must purchase refined products outside of the State.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
10:27:24 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Bunde  asked  whether  a  gallon  per  mile  per  passenger                                                            
comparison has  been conducted between the new fast  ferries and the                                                            
traditional  ferries. While acknowledging  that traditional  ferries                                                            
incur  high personnel  costs,  he  asked  whether fast  ferries  are                                                            
cheaper to operate.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Senator Taylor  responded that while fuel consumption  is determined                                                            
by the speed  at which a  fast ferry is  operated, overall  the fast                                                            
ferries  are  more   expensive  to  operate.  The   fast  ferry  M/V                                                            
Fairweather  is averaging 150 to 200  gallons an hour more  than the                                                            
fast  ferry M/V  Chenega  due to  the  speed at  which  it has  been                                                            
running.  The fast ferries  could burn  500 to  700 gallons  an hour                                                            
when operated  at full speed.  The M/V Chenega  is using 350  to 400                                                            
gallons  per hour. The  cost per  passenger is  subject to how  many                                                            
passengers board  the ship. Ferry passenger ridership  is lower than                                                            
desired  levels. It  should be  noted that  the  desired levels  are                                                            
achieved  in the  summer  months,  particularly  on the  Lynn  Canal                                                            
route. In addition,  due to a recent  AHMS promotion, ridership  has                                                            
been near capacity  on the Bellingham, Washington  northbound route.                                                            
While  no profit  is being  generated, the  runs "are  coming a  lot                                                            
closer to  breaking even and  are costing us  a lot less to  operate                                                            
that boat than it would have been to tie that boat up".                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Senator Taylor stated that  a report regarding fast ferries would be                                                            
presented to the Administration  by the end of the week. This report                                                            
would assist the  Department in providing "greater  guidance" to the                                                            
Legislature on the issue.  Legislative assistance would be sought in                                                            
regards to decisions  such as where vessels should  be deployed, how                                                            
long  should they  be  operated,  and other  economic  issues.  Such                                                            
decisions could not be made without adequate information.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:29:52 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken informed  the Committee that a separate presentation                                                            
from the AHMS would be forthcoming.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
10:30:11 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Dyson  noted that,  in  addition  to determining  the  fuel                                                            
consumption per  hour, fuel consumption per nautical  mile should be                                                            
calculated.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator Taylor stated that that information could be provided.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Hoffman  asked  regarding  the  ridership   comparisons  of                                                            
Alaskans verses non-Alaskans.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Taylor  stated that that would be difficult  to determine as                                                            
Alaskans travel  extensively in and  out of the State. He  estimated                                                            
80 percent  of the overall revenue  is generated by summer  traffic,                                                            
with  winter  travel generating  approximately   20 percent  of  the                                                            
revenue.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
10:31:14 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Stedman  asked for a breakout of Alaskan verses  non-Alaskan                                                            
travel in the winter months.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Taylor  stated that that information  was not available.  He                                                            
noted  that  military  personnel  leaving  and  entering  the  State                                                            
provide  a lot  of traffic  on the ferry  system.  Alaskans who  are                                                            
unable  to travel through  Canada  because they  have had a  Driving                                                            
Under  the Influence  charge  or are  carrying guns  generate  other                                                            
traffic.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
10:32:18 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Slagle  stressed  the urgency  of the request,  as AMHS  funding                                                            
would  be depleted  in  March.  Beyond  that  point, AMHS  would  be                                                            
required to tie up vessels.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:33:00 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Section: 8(a)                                                                                                              
     RDU:  Capital - Congressional Earmarks                                                                                     
     Supplemental Need:  Improvements to the Alaska Ship and Drydock                                                            
     facilities  - construction  of  a new 2,500-ton  ship lift  and                                                            
     land level  ship transfer system.  This project contributes  to                                                            
     the Department's  Mission by reducing injuries,  fatalities and                                                            
     property  damage and  by improving the  mobility of people  and                                                            
     goods.                                                                                                                     
     $9,000,000 Federal Receipts (Fed Rcpts)                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Slagle informed the  Committee that the federal re-authorization                                                            
of  the  federal  highway  bill  in  August  2005,   contained  many                                                            
Congressional  earmarks including  one for  the Ketchikan  shipyard.                                                            
While most  of the Congressional earmarks  would be included  in the                                                            
FY 07  capital budget  or in the  regular supplemental,  there  is a                                                            
concern  with the earmark  for the Ketchikan  shipyard. "Basically,                                                             
the  shipyard has  signed  an agreement  with  the office  of  Navel                                                            
Research  to  design   and  construct  a  $30  million   high  speed                                                            
expeditionary  craft".  The  problem is  that  some changes  to  the                                                            
shipyard  must  occur  in  order to  meet  the  timelines  for  that                                                            
contract. This  would include such  things as the addition  of a new                                                            
2,500-ton  ship lift.  Bids  could be advertised  in March  2006 and                                                            
construction could begin shortly thereafter.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken  stated that that  would be "a nice addition  to the                                                            
shipyard".                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:35:25 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Office of the Governor                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Section: 6(a)                                                                                                              
     RDU: Executive Office Operations Gas Pipeline                                                                              
     Supplemental   Need:  Continue  the  efforts   related  to  the                                                            
     development  of the gas pipeline  and bringing North  Slope gas                                                            
     to market. Lapse date of June 30.                                                                                          
     $1,000,000 General Funds                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
LINDA PEREZ,  Administrative  Director, Division  of Administrative                                                             
Services,  Office  of the  Governor,  explained  that  the  previous                                                            
$500,000 appropriation  to the Governor's Office for work related to                                                            
the  State gas  pipeline has  been  fully expended.  This  requested                                                            
funding would  allow the  gas pipeline negotiations  to continue  by                                                            
providing  for  staff  resources,  consultants,  meeting  costs  and                                                            
travel. She  noted that, after further  review, it was decided  that                                                            
this request could be reduced to $500,000.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken acknowledged  that an amendment to that effect would                                                            
be developed.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
10:36:14 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Green asked  whether the  $500,000  request would  address                                                            
both the FY 06 and FY 07 needs.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Perez affirmed.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Green  asked the reason that FY 07 funding  was included in                                                            
this FY 06 Supplemental request.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Perez  stated  it  is being  presented  in  this  manner  as  a                                                            
continuation   of   the  original   appropriation.   That   original                                                            
appropriation  addressed expenses  for FY 05  and FY 06. This  would                                                            
carry the effort forward by addressing FY 06 and FY 07 needs.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Green  questioned whether including funds  for a subsequent                                                            
year in a current year's supplemental bill would be appropriate.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken indicated that should not be the case.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Perez stated that the lapse date could be amended.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken  stated that further  work on this request  would be                                                            
conducted, as the request  should pertain to the proper fiscal year.                                                            
He thanked Co-Chair Green for her observation.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Department of Law                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Section: 6(b)                                                                                                              
     RDU: Oil, Gas and Mining Gas Pipeline and Other Oil & Gas                                                                  
     Projects                                                                                                                   
     Supplemental  Need: FY 2006 Supplemental request  of $5,400,000                                                            
     for  work related  to the state  gas pipeline  and to  bringing                                                            
     North  Slope  natural  gas  to  market,  and other  oil  &  gas                                                            
     projects,  for fiscal years ending June 30, 2006,  and June 30,                                                            
     2007.                                                                                                                      
     $5,400,000 General Funds                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
10:37:38 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
LARRY OSTROSKY, Chief Assistant  Attorney, General-Statewide Section                                                            
Supervisor, Oil, Gas and  Mining Section, Civil Division, Department                                                            
of Law testified  via teleconference from Anchorage  and stated that                                                            
this  request   would  provide  funds   to  contract  with   outside                                                            
consultants to  address on-going royalty litigation,  on-going Trans                                                            
Alaska Pipeline  Service (TAPS) tariff litigation,  and gas pipeline                                                            
efforts.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ostrosky noted  that the Oil & Gas Section of  the Department of                                                            
Law "represents the Department  of Natural Resources with respect to                                                            
royalty matters … There's  been a long history of issues between the                                                            
State and North Slope producers  regarding how to properly value the                                                            
State's royalty share of oil."                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ostrosky explained  that the "State's royalty is based on a net-                                                            
backed  value   of  oil  and  gas   after  certain  costs,   notably                                                            
transportation,  are subtracted. The disputes have  tended to center                                                            
on determining  the value on oil,  its destination, determining  the                                                            
costs, for  example the cost  of tankering,  the cost of getting  it                                                            
there. And these disputes  have led to Royalty Settlement agreements                                                            
with the three  major North Slope producers. The Royalty  Settlement                                                            
Agreements have  eliminated many issues and provide  for arbitration                                                            
in lieu  of litigation.  But  it's important  for  the Committee  to                                                            
understand even these arbitration  proceedings resemble mini trials"                                                            
in that they require  discovery, expert testimony  and other things.                                                            
Historically, the Department  has contracted with outside counsel to                                                            
conduct  the State's arbitration  on large  complex issues,  "simply                                                            
because we  don't have the  staff to gear  up for large proceedings                                                             
like  these."  The firm  of  Hoosey  and McArthur  (ph),  which  has                                                            
represented  the  State in  numerous  royalty  tax issues,  is  well                                                            
versed in Alaska oil and royalty tax issues.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Ostrosky  noted that  a  royalty  arbitration  currently  being                                                            
conducted with  Exxon Mobile would  be expected to cost $1,700,000.                                                             
"It will  be money  well spent."  Two of  the issues  the State  has                                                            
prevailed in would  provide approximately $44,000,000  to the State.                                                            
Were   the   State   to   prevail   on   another   issue   regarding                                                            
transportation, an additional $27,000,000 could be awarded.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ostrosky  stated that another  major component addressed  by the                                                            
Department  is tariff issues, specifically  pipeline tariff  issues.                                                            
While there  is a significant  level of in-house  expertise  on this                                                            
subject, the State must  hire outside law firms in order to properly                                                            
prepare for  the efforts  exerted by the  producers. The major  case                                                            
that is currently  pending involves TAPS tariffs for  the years 2003                                                            
through 2005.  The State has contracted  with a large international                                                             
law firm that has more  than 30 years of experience with the State's                                                            
pipeline issues.  The State filed a protest of the  TAPS tariffs for                                                            
the years 2003 through  2005 "based on a variance between interstate                                                            
and intrastate  rates." The State  protested that the difference  in                                                            
the rates was "discriminatory"  and proposed reducing the interstate                                                            
rate "to what the RCA [Regulatory  Commission of Alaska] found to be                                                            
the appropriate intrastate  rate". Were the State to prevail in this                                                            
case, its  royalty production  tax revenues  could increase  by more                                                            
than $100,000,000 a year.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Ostrosky stated  that  tariff cases  involving  this amount  of                                                            
money are large  and complex. "Each  side files extensive  testimony                                                            
and rebuttals"  and the upcoming  hearing is  anticipated to  last a                                                            
minimum of one month.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ostrosky  stated that  the Department  has primarily  contracted                                                            
with  two international  law  firms for  the gas  pipeline  project.                                                            
While the Department  has expertise  in oil and gas issues,  it does                                                            
not have much  in-house expertise in large commercial  transactions,                                                            
federal regulatory  matters, federal  tax matters, business  law, or                                                            
general  energy law. The  law firm  of Preston  Gates & Ellis  would                                                            
represent  the State's interest  in regards  to the potential  State                                                            
financing  of  the  gas  pipeline.  The  other  law  firm,  Morrison                                                            
Forester,  would provide  expertise in regulatory,  commercial,  and                                                            
transactions  efforts.   They  have  also  been  the  State's  chief                                                            
contract  drafter, which  is  hundreds of  pages in  length "and  is                                                            
extremely complex".                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
10:44:28 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Ostrosky  stated  that  the  firm  of  Morrison   Forester  has                                                            
extensive  experience  regarding complex  issues  such as  "explorer                                                            
access to the  gas pipeline, acquisition  of State capacity  to move                                                            
State gas,  RCA interaction,  open season  regulations, federal  tax                                                            
questions", and negotiations  surrounding "the creation of a limited                                                            
liability company that  would own and operate the gas" pipeline. The                                                            
creation  of  a limited  liability  company  would  be  the  vehicle                                                            
through which  the State could participate  in the ownership  of the                                                            
gas pipeline. The creation  of a limited liability corporation would                                                            
be very lengthy and complex process.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ostrosky  anticipated that Morrison  Forester would continue  to                                                            
be  an integral  part of  the  effort even  after  the gas  pipeline                                                            
contract is  presented to the Legislature.  Preston Gates  and Ellis                                                            
would also continue to  be involved in matters involving such things                                                            
as various  "financing options, certain  Constitutional issues  that                                                            
might arise in  respect to fiscal certainty", and  issues pertaining                                                            
to taking gas in kind in lieu of taxes.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ostrosky  noted that Preston Gates  and Ellis would also  assist                                                            
the State "in  assembling and organizing  the administrative  record                                                            
on the case."                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ostrosky stated that  the hiring of outside legal counsel is "an                                                            
important investment in protecting the State's interests."                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:47:55 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
DAVID MARQUEZ, Attorney  General, Department of Law, stated that Mr.                                                            
Ostrosky's statements were very thorough.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
KATHRYN  DAUGHHETEE,  Director,  Administrative  Services  Division,                                                            
Department  of  Law  pointed  out  that  $1,500,000  of  this  total                                                            
$5,400,000  request would support  FY 07 needs. The FY 06  and FY 07                                                            
needs  were   "bundled  together   as  a   matter  of  brevity   and                                                            
convenience". Placing the  FY 07 needs "in another vehicle" would be                                                            
acceptable.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:49:26 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Department of Commerce, Community and Economic Development                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Section: 7                                                                                                                 
     RDU: 2006 Arctic Winter Games Host                                                                                         
     Supplemental Need: This funding will provide a grant to the                                                                
     2006 Arctic Winter Games Host Society to support the Arctic                                                                
     Winter Games scheduled for March 5-12, 2006.                                                                               
     $500,000 General Funds                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken  noted that this request would address  the needs of                                                            
the Arctic Winter  Games. Committee Members have received  a copy of                                                            
the Games  budget overview,  dated January  31, 2006 [copy  on file]                                                            
that has been  developed by Senator Tom Wagoner, who  represents the                                                            
Kenai Peninsula  Senate District, in which the Games  would be held.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
10:50:05 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
BILL POPP,  Representative, Kenai  Peninsula Borough, testified  via                                                            
teleconference  from  an offnet  site and  stated that  he would  be                                                            
available to respond to Committee questions.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken was surprised  that the budget included a $1,200,000                                                            
expense for  one week's use  of school buses.  Continuing,  he asked                                                            
whether  the $500,000 funding  shortfall reflected  in this  request                                                            
could  be addressed  by  the  reconsideration  of the  school  buses                                                            
purchase.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Popp understood  that "line of logic". However,  he informed the                                                            
Committee  that the  school bus  funding was  an unexpected  Federal                                                            
Transportation  Authority Congressional earmark acquired  by Senator                                                            
Ted Stevens. Noting  that the Kenai Peninsula has  no bus authority,                                                            
he stated  that the restrictions  accompanying  the funding  specify                                                            
that the  funds must  be used  for transportation  hardware such  as                                                            
buses.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
10:51:37 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken understood  therefore  that unless  the funds  were                                                            
utilized to purchase the buses, the funding would dissipate.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Popp affirmed.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Hoffman asked  how the buses  would be  utilized after  the                                                            
conclusion of the Arctic Winter Games.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Popp stated  that  the buses  would be  provided  to the  Kenai                                                            
School District, which  would use them as "activity buses throughout                                                            
the entire school  district as a legacy from the Games"  to the host                                                            
community.  He noted  that the District  had provided  a 20  percent                                                            
match for the buses.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
10:52:21 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken asked what  event prompted the need for the Games to                                                            
seek additional federal and State funds.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Popp explained  that  while the  Games' organizers  had  sought                                                            
funding  assistance  at the  federal level,  the  $500,000 that  was                                                            
included  in a recent National  Defense Appropriation  bill  for the                                                            
Games, would  be provided directly  to the Department of  Defense to                                                            
compensate for expenses  they would incur when providing security at                                                            
the  Games. The  funds  would not  and  could not  be  spent by  the                                                            
organization.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Popp stated therefore  that the $850,000 shortfall identified in                                                            
November  2005 remained.  An expected   $200,000  federal grant  was                                                            
negated as the  result of federal assistance being  diverted for the                                                            
Hurricane Katrina  aftermath. The  immensity of that hurricane  also                                                            
negatively   impacted  corporate   and  private   donations.   Thus,                                                            
resulting  funding  shortfall  has  prompted  this  request.  Recent                                                            
fundraisers and appeals  to corporations have assisted in reducing a                                                            
portion  of  the  $850,000  shortfall.   This  $500,000  request  is                                                            
"pivotal" to the Games.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken asked  the  amount the  State appropriated  to  the                                                            
Kenai Arctic Winter Games the previous year.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Popp understood  that the previous  appropriation was  $600,000.                                                            
$1,200,000 of State appropriations  had been provided to support the                                                            
FY 1996 Arctic  Winter Games held in Eagle River.  The organizers of                                                            
the Kenai  Peninsula  Arctic Winter  Games had hoped  to generate  a                                                            
significant  amount of  funding from  the private  sector,  however,                                                            
that  effort has  been unsuccessful.  Thus  this  request for  State                                                            
funds "is falling in line with past practice history".                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken asked for  clarification as to whether the shortfall                                                            
was due  to the organizers'  inability to raise  funds or due  to an                                                            
increase in costs.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Popp replied  that the shortfall is due to the  "lack of ability                                                            
to raise  funds". While  efforts were  made to  hold expenses,  this                                                            
project,  like numerous  non-profit  organizations  nationwide,  has                                                            
experienced  fund-raising   difficulties  due  to  hurricane  relief                                                            
efforts  in the  United States  and  tsunami and  earthquake  relief                                                            
efforts in other parts  of the world. "Belts are being tightened and                                                            
dollars  are  being spread  thinner  on  the  corporate fundraising                                                             
front."   This  has   been  a   "significant   contributor  to   the                                                            
difficulties"  the  Games  have  experienced  in  their fundraising                                                             
efforts.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken asked whether  a list of capital items that exceeded                                                            
their original budget could be provided.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Popp could  not recall  any component  exceeding  the  original                                                            
budget. Separate  operating and capital budgets were  developed. The                                                            
request before  the Committee would  address operating budget  needs                                                            
of the Games.  Capital budget needs had been completed  in the prior                                                            
budget  cycle. A  list of  the capital  projects  addressed  through                                                            
$3,500,000  in  federal  earmarks   could  be  provided.  That  list                                                            
included such  things as a new ice rink in Homer,  cross-country ski                                                            
trail improvements, improvements  to the Kenai multi-purpose center,                                                            
and improvements to the Soldotna Sports Center.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
10:58:43 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken  continued to "struggle"  with the reason  for there                                                            
being a $850,000 shortfall.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Popp reiterated  that the projects in the Games'  capital budget                                                            
were completely  addressed through  federal earmarks. The  shortfall                                                            
that is being  experienced is in the Operating budget.  The needs of                                                            
1,900 athletes and cultural  performers from seven countries must be                                                            
provided for. These needs  are "pretty substantial". The cash budget                                                            
over  the  past  four  budget  years  is  a  total  $4,300,000.  The                                                            
organizers are  in the final phase of preparing for  the March games                                                            
and are  "struggling" to  meet the final  operating budget  monetary                                                            
goal. The budget has been "stripped down substantially."                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
In response to  a question from Co-Chair Wilken, Mr.  Popp clarified                                                            
that  "the   total  cash   budget  since   the  inception"   of  the                                                            
organization  for the Kenai  Arctic Winter  Games four years  ago is                                                            
$4,300,000.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken  asked for  verification  that the  $4,300,000  was                                                            
solely operational funding.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Popp affirmed.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken  calculated  therefore  that  the  total  operating                                                            
budget needs would be $4,300,000 plus the $850,000 shortfall.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Popp clarified  that  the $850,000  is  included  in the  total                                                            
$4,300,000 budget. That is the amount that the budget is short.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken  understood that the  $850,000 shortfall  was due to                                                            
an inability to raise funds.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Popp affirmed and voiced  appreciation for any consideration the                                                            
Committee and the Legislature could provide.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
11:01:31 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Department of Corrections                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Section: DOC A                                                                                                             
     RDU:   Fairbanks   Correctional   Center  ACI   Shop   Building                                                            
     Renovation for Crisis Overflow Beds                                                                                        
     Supplemental   Need:  This  project  will  provide  funding  to                                                            
     renovate the pre-engineered  metal building that was previously                                                            
     used as the Alaska  Correctional Industries Shop. This building                                                            
     will  function  as a  50 Bed  Minimum Security  Housing  Crisis                                                            
     Overflow  Unit,  which  will  consist of  two  dormitories.  An                                                            
     increase of beds is  necessary at Fairbanks Correctional Center                                                            
     to  support the increased  prisoner population.  As of  October                                                            
     25, 2005,  the current out-of-state prisoner  population was at                                                            
     766   and  the   in-state  population   is   at  108%  of   the                                                            
     institutional    emergency   capacity.   With   increased   law                                                            
     enforcement by local and state agencies, the Department has no                                                             
      expectation of any decline in the offender population.                                                                    
     $800,000 General Funds                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
PORTIA  PARKER,  Deputy  Commissioner,  Department  of Corrections,                                                             
informed the Committee  that this request is being  advanced in this                                                            
legislation because  the overcrowding in the Fairbanks  correctional                                                            
facilities  "has reached  a  point of  critical"  mass. A  four-page                                                            
handout titled  "Projected Offenders  Fairbanks Correctional  Center                                                            
Fiscal  Year  2006-2007"  [copy on  file]  that  depicted  occupancy                                                            
levels being experienced  at the facility was distributed.  In order                                                            
to  address  the  situation,  the  Department  has  been  forced  to                                                            
"dramatically  increase  the  number of  transports  in  and out  of                                                            
Fairbanks". The situation  also impacts staffing overtime. Prisoners                                                            
are being  housed in the  facility's gymnasium.  This request  would                                                            
assist in alleviating the  overcrowding situation by allowing a pre-                                                            
engineered   metal   structure,   formerly   used  as   the   Alaska                                                            
Correctional  Industries (ACI) Shop,  to be remodeled into  a crisis                                                            
overflow dormitory style facility that could house 50 inmates.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
11:03:54 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Stedman asked why  this problem had not been anticipated and                                                            
addressed  by  the  regular  budget process  instead  of  through  a                                                            
supplemental bill.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken understood  that the current situation resulted from                                                            
a policy change.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Parker  informed the Committee  that the expansions of  both the                                                            
Bethel and Fairbanks  correctional facilities have  been included on                                                            
the Department's  list of needs. The  overcrowding issue  has been a                                                            
problem for years.  Recently there has been a "dramatic  increase in                                                            
the pretrial  pre-sentence  population" in  Fairbanks. The  cause of                                                            
this is unclear:  it could the result  of increased law enforcement                                                             
efforts   or   increased  prosecutors.    The  facility   has   been                                                            
experiencing  approximately  40 more  prisoners on  a regular  basis                                                            
year to date.  In addition, the structure  being considered  for the                                                            
remodel  has   become  available.   It  has  been  determined   that                                                            
remodeling  the ACI facility would  be "the most cost effective  way                                                            
to deal with an emergency situation."                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Wilken  understood   that   there  has   been   increased                                                            
enforcement of Driving  Under the Influence (DUI) infractions in the                                                            
Fairbanks  area.  This  has  been accompanied  by  a  policy  change                                                            
mandating  that people arrested  for a DUI  must be held until  they                                                            
could be arraigned rather  than being released within hours on bail.                                                            
This has  resulted in more  people requiring  beds and has  added to                                                            
the pressure on the system.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
11:07:21 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Green  reminded the Committee that the need  for additional                                                            
correctional   facilities  in  the  State  has  been   an  issue  of                                                            
discussion for years. Arrests  and convictions around the State have                                                            
increased. Thus the situation  in "Fairbanks is not an anomaly, it's                                                            
just the trend."  The fact that the State is "tough  on crime" would                                                            
impact  the  correctional  system.   "We've  been  begging  for  the                                                            
construction  of new  facilities", and  "the thought"  was that  new                                                            
facilities would  have been available by now in communities  such as                                                            
Fairbanks and Bethel.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
11:08:17 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator   Hoffman  asked   the  status   of   the  Yukon   Kuskokwim                                                            
Correctional Facility,  which was ranked as "the number  one need in                                                            
the State".                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Parker responded  that discussions with Senator  Hoffman and the                                                            
City  of Bethel  have transpired  and the  Department  is "ready  to                                                            
enter into discussions  with the leadership at the City of Bethel to                                                            
move  forward  on   how  to  finance"  and  construct   the  120-bed                                                            
expansion.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
11:09:12 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken stated  that  this would  conclude  the fast  track                                                            
supplemental  energy request presentations.  The total amount  being                                                            
requested  in  this bill  is  $51,998,000.  He understood  that  the                                                            
requests   that  would  be   presented  in   the  separate   regular                                                            
supplemental bill might amount to $114,000,000.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken ordered the bill HELD in Committee.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Gary Wilken adjourned the meeting at 11:09:57 AM                                                                     

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